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« Reply #560 on: 25/03/2020, 21:00:56 »
Does someone have the scans of "Mîm's Klage" (The Complaint of Mîm). It should be found in the German book "Das erste Jahrzehnt 1977–1987". Thanks

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD
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« Reply #561 on: 25/03/2020, 21:20:57 »
Does someone have the scans of "Mîm's Klage" (The Complaint of Mîm). It should be found in the German book "Das erste Jahrzehnt 1977–1987". Thanks

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD
A lot of thanks, Phil! This is great!
But does you have German text or scans of Mîm's Klage? It could be useful too!
Верю в эльфов и гномов. Не верю в людей...
Нет бога кроме Эру и Толкин - пророк его!
Aglâb khuzdûl! Всё о кхуздуле: khuzdul.su

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« Reply #562 on: 25/03/2020, 22:20:47 »
Does someone have the scans of "Mîm's Klage" (The Complaint of Mîm). It should be found in the German book "Das erste Jahrzehnt 1977–1987". Thanks

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD
A lot of thanks, Phil! This is great!
But does you have German text or scans of Mîm's Klage? It could be useful too!

Indeed, it is there, named "Mîms Klage (DE, page scans)", and two translations into English.

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« Reply #563 on: 25/03/2020, 23:33:07 »

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD

Hehe, you assume correctly. I had heard of this before, but it had slipped my mind... Thank you (again)!

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« Reply #564 on: 25/03/2020, 23:34:56 »
Does someone have the scans of "Mîm's Klage" (The Complaint of Mîm). It should be found in the German book "Das erste Jahrzehnt 1977–1987". Thanks

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD
A lot of thanks, Phil! This is great!
But does you have German text or scans of Mîm's Klage? It could be useful too!

Indeed, it is there, named "Mîms Klage (DE, page scans)", and two translations into English.
I`m sorry!  :-[ I missed it in my browser. >:(
Great thanks again, Phil!
I will try to translate The Complaint of Mîm into khuzdul (reconstructed). 8) Soon...
Верю в эльфов и гномов. Не верю в людей...
Нет бога кроме Эру и Толкин - пророк его!
Aglâb khuzdûl! Всё о кхуздуле: khuzdul.su

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« Reply #565 on: 25/03/2020, 23:35:48 »

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD

Hehe, you assume correctly. I had heard of this before, but it had slipped my mind... Thank you (again)!

My pleasure, let me know if you have any opinions on the translation.

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« Reply #566 on: 25/03/2020, 23:36:43 »
Does someone have the scans of "Mîm's Klage" (The Complaint of Mîm). It should be found in the German book "Das erste Jahrzehnt 1977–1987". Thanks

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD
A lot of thanks, Phil! This is great!
But does you have German text or scans of Mîm's Klage? It could be useful too!

Indeed, it is there, named "Mîms Klage (DE, page scans)", and two translations into English.
I`m sorry!  :-[ I missed it in my browser. >:(
Great thanks again, Phil!
I will try to translate The Complaint of Mîm into khuzdul (reconstructed). 8) Soon...

No trouble at all friend and I look forward to that :)

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« Reply #567 on: 26/03/2020, 15:53:03 »

Hehe I assume you were in the Discord while we were talking earlier? Or just coincidence?

We have the pages in German, translated into English by one of my archive members who studied German masters, and a translation by native German group 'Mythen aus Mittelerde'.

https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NEaz2a36G4HA_-thCvTMpWu2hYuaBChD

Hehe, you assume correctly. I had heard of this before, but it had slipped my mind... Thank you (again)!

My pleasure, let me know if you have any opinions on the translation.

I cannot judge the translations as I cannot read German!
By the way, the text is interesting and feels strange. It would be interesting to know the date of its composition and why the english original was never published.

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« Reply #568 on: 26/03/2020, 16:56:05 »
I cannot judge the translations as I cannot read German!
By the way, the text is interesting and feels strange. It would be interesting to know the date of its composition and why the english original was never published.

Funny you call it strange because during my own primary translations I found it strange, then when my friend who studied German at academic level translated it found it most un-Tolkien like and then the other groups translation left us both feeling much the same.

There is no indication as to when it was written and why it would be treated so oddly by the estate to be essentially hidden in a German publication that a tiny fraction of people would read is beyond me. And why they would not offer the original is beyond crazy. If they had included it they would have quadrupled sales quite easily.

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« Reply #569 on: 26/03/2020, 16:57:23 »
I share that latest poem from my GoogleDrive which I don't normally do so if anybody missed it and wnats a cpy I will add it another location. The share link for that is now off.

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« Reply #570 on: 28/03/2020, 21:17:30 »
https://mega.nz/#F!B0cEWALR!cHkoShZctMmUx0cOhJSN4g

I have been a little behind so there are the last 3 Amon Hen issues from the Tolkien Society. 280-282.

Enjoy

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« Reply #571 on: 31/03/2020, 09:44:37 »
https://cloud.mail.ru/public/3Z8Y/3E2AetRNt

Biography of Fr. Francis Morgan - "Uncle Curro" by Jose Manuel Ferrandez Bru with John Garth`s preface - epub
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