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And Aragorn looked on the slain, and he said: 'Here lie many that are not folk of Mordor. Some are from the North, from the Misty Mountains, if I know anything of Orcs and their kinds. And here are others strange to me. Their gear is not after the manner of Orcs at all!'Стоит отметить, что Арагорн удивляется прежде всего вооружению.
There were four goblin-soldiers of greater stature, swart, slant-eyed, with thick legs and large hands. They were armed with short broad-bladed swords, not with the curved scimitars usual with Orcs: and they had bows of yew, in length and shape like the bows of Men. Upon their shields they bore a strange device: a small white hand in the centre of a black field; on the front of their iron helms was set an S-rune, wrought of some white metal.
'I have not seen these tokens before,' said Aragorn. 'What do they mean?'
'S is for Sauron,' said Gimli. 'That is easy to read.'
'Nay!' said Legolas. 'Sauron does not use the Elf-runes.'
'Neither does he use his right name, nor permit it to be spelt or spoken,' said Aragorn. 'And he does not use white. The Orcs in the service of Barad-dûr use the sign of the Red Eye.' He stood for a moment in thought. 'S is for Saruman, I guess,' he said at length. 'There is evil afoot in Isengard, and the West is no longer safe. It is as Gandalf feared: by some means the traitor Saruman has had news of our journey. It is likely too that he knows of Gandalf's fall. Pursuers from Moria may have escaped the vigilance of Lórien, or they may have avoided that land and come to Isengard by other paths. Orcs travel fast. But Saruman has many ways of learning news. Do you remember the birds?'
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А также свидетельство Гамлинга:А Гамлинг в этой же главе называет "орками" вообще всех, кто находился за стеной, включая дунландцев. И тем более цитата про полуорков, которые всё-таки другой народ.
Пожалуй, я всё-таки сюда скопирую из одной беседы:
Внешний вид.
Уруки.
black Uruks of Mordor
he saw a large black Orc, probably Uglúk, standing facing Grish-nákh
battalion of black Uruks
Полуорки
large ill-favoured Men lounging against the inn-wall; they were squint-eyed and sallow-faced.
But there were some others that were horrible: man-high, but with goblin-faces, sallow, leering, squint-eyed. Do you know, they reminded me at once of that Southerner at Bree; only he was not so obviously ore-like as most of these were.’
‘I thought of him too,’ said Aragorn. ‘We had many of these half-ores to deal with at Helm's Deep.
То есть налицо как минимум одно отличие - цвет кожи.
Более того, в указателе к анфиништам.
Uruks - Anglicized form of Uruk-hai of the Black Speech; a race of Orcs of great size and strength. - ни слова про полуорков.
И лингвистически.
Слово "Орки" по отношению к полукровкам Сарумана применяется лишь однажды - во время Битвы в Хельмовой Пади. Но там "орками" называется всё войско Сарумана, включая дунландцев. Очевидно, что это не является характеристикой и даётся по основной массе войска.
Во всех остальных случаях - в анфиништах, в воспоминаниях Арагорна, в словах прочих видевших, по всей главе "Очищение Шира" - только "люди".